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Saving your fingerprint to a networked mobile device has to be a bad idea

Of course Android users don't care, but you just know that as soon as they have scanned their fingerprint with their device, Google *and* NSA will have it in their databases within 5 minutes. How does...

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Comment by bocephus

@pisarz1958 Spoken like a true Android sheep. Why are you using Sailfish? @johanh Of course I can't judge the validity of my (tongue-in-cheek) claim, but I'd honestly be more surprised if Google...

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Comment by johanh

@pisarz1958 Your comment is not relevant and not helpful. I think it is a very good question and would like to know how and where it is stored. I don't know the truth of the statement that "Google and...

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Comment by BirdZhang

Maybe it saved to TrustZone,

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Comment by utkiek

In worst case you can "forget" your password. But forgetting a fingerprint??

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Comment by r0kk3rz

The implementation here is going to be hooked into the android hal, so i'm not sure even jolla can answer this question...

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Comment by bocephus

@Kim Of locally, hence my mentioning physical access. I would *expect* the same of Jolla, but I'm not going to leave my security up to unproven expectations.

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Comment by johanh

@utkiek Could you explain why forgetting anything has to do with where fingerprints are possibly stored? I can't see the connection.

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Comment by bocephus

Asking how fingerprints are stored on the device is not "tinfoil hat lifestyle". And this thread *is* research, whereby I ask of Jolla the relevant information. You clearly have nothing of importance...

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Comment by utkiek

@johanh a fingerprint is alway stored. at least once! :-)) The use of biometric id's is a dangerous game. You can't chance a biometric id if leaked. And a fingerprint is a public biometric id. If I...

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Comment by johanh

If nobody can answer that, it sounds like a possible violation against GDPR.

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Comment by Kim

I would expect it to be stored locally (on the phone), as the fp lock must function even when there are no network/coverage. Where it is stored on the phone is another question, but it probably is in a...

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Comment by pisarz1958

Isn't fingerprint sensor on phones implemented the same way as on PC? Which means, data is being stored securely in sensor itself, with verification happening on the sensor itself, with OS knowing only...

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Comment by johanh

@utkiek Partly agree. A fingerprint falls under the GDPR regulation of private data and requires consent to collect. It is not in any way public data (by definition of law), even though people leave...

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Comment by nthn

@pisarz1958: I don't understand why you're trying to suggest anyone who's hesitant of giving up all of their private information, no questions asked, to big corporations and shady government agents is...

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Comment by pisarz1958

Guess you guys completely missed out on San Bernardino terrorist case and the whole "pretty plz add backdoors to your crypto" drama in the US. You can catch up here:...

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Comment by nthn

@pisarz1958: look at ANY of the NSA documents released since 2013, there are more than enough. Have you ever even heard of the term 'dragnet surveillance'? Or, regarding @bocephus' statement, ever...

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Comment by pisarz1958

It's stored in the cloud in US, on the same server where classified docs about vaccination conspiracy are.

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Answer by naytsyrhc for Saving your fingerprint to a networked mobile device...

My answer is: no it doesn't necessarily have to. I really don't know how it is done. But if I would implement it, I would create some sort of key from the scanned fingerprint and would use a one-way...

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Comment by johanh

Your idea is good and it sounds great if implemented this way, but speculation is not a real answer on the question.

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